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PRC mistresses - loose and on the prowl in HKG  
  
        
  
   nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 12:21 pm
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Seems like they're everywhere these days - PRC gals who came down to HKG as mistresses - and even wives - who are now loose and on the prowl as their old sugar daddies/old husbands went bust/cannot afford them any longer. These are NOT the regular Northern Mushroom hookers who are also all over the place - these are quite special - many times strikingly beautiful/ good Quali - and are now available for a fraction of what they used to get from their old benefactors!
Any similar experiences/knowledge from you guys?  

nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 3:59 pm
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OK perhaps I'd better tell you all what I know about this matter. then perhaps I can get some feed back.
I've had 3 of these girls and their modus operandi is usually quite similar - 1. verification, 2. temptation, 3. Service 4. negotiation. Let me elaborate -
1. when first meeting you - whether thru friends, pick up or ?? they will first try to verify if you are the kind of person who would 'qualify' in their books - if you've got the wherewithalls to afford them AND if you are the kind of person who would possibly be interested in an 'arrangement'. 2. Second step is for them to use ALL their wiles and guiles to tempt you and to be totally interested in them.  

errr.....  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:03 pm
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isn't that the same for all chicks?  

nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:04 pm
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The third step - which I think is just really great is the service part!! Invariably, they would invite you to their home or ??? and they would really really take care of you there - and I mean things like when you first get there, that they would be all loving, have brand new slippers for you, mixing you any drinks, doing the actual cooking for you, not only have dinner with you but actually blowing on the soup and then gently feeding you - just like courtesans of eras past, etc and then the main course - which is really really mind blowing *** AND loving - the things they ALL do, makes anybody feel as if they're really king of the hill and that this is what life is all about for a MALE  

nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:07 pm
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After *** and everything else, right on cue, they then start to tell you about their troubles - how their sugar daddy/husbands/boy friend have now disappeared/gone broke and then, they would basically outline some of their daily 'expenses' - rents, maid, driver, car maintenance, spending money etc and then just leave it at that!! That would be the end of the evening/morning and no more discussion on this. Amazing that all 3 that I've had ALL did stop discussing this all after they've baswically outlined what are the things they're "used to"  

libertin  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:15 pm
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they certainly sound a lot more advanced than their hong kong sisters, who are just pathetic in bed, sulky and bitchy all the time and STILL make you pay for everything.  

nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:17 pm
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It would not be UNTIL the next meeting - whether you arrange it or they arrange it - in any case you DO end up having this 'crucial' meeting.' Here you are, having had not only some of the best *** in your young life (if not THE best!!), but you are also here facing this exotic, super beautiful, and in at least 2 of my case - super talented/gifted sexy woman - that has "at last correctly" made you feel like a "Real Man." This woman is now in front of you, telling you how wonderul YOU make her feel, how she really really would like to be with you for the rest of her life, how she would practically die/become a nun unless you accept her. AND THEN the clincher, usually nonchalantly and matter of factly, just giving you things like the rental demand, or the Filipino maid/driver asking for their monthly pay while the 2 of you are there. THANK GOD up to now, I've had the presence of mine NOT to have goten suckered in..... although mind you, especially number 2, I've thought about it quite a few times and think maybe.... maybe.....???
OK You out there - please realy to me/us if you've also run accross such phenomena or am I living a different world??!!  

Where?  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:31 pm
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Where/how do I find these gals???!!! Where....WHere...WHEre...WHERe WHERE????!!!!! Please tell me!!!  

nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 4:55 pm
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I'm not really sure myself HOW one would actually go about trying to meet these girls. Perhaps I just relay how I met them - a. I was having tea at that 1st floor cafe at the Landmark and just happened to see a friend of mine who was sitting with this girl. I moved over to the table and started chatting. b. A dear old friend (ex GF) invited me to dinner and amongst others I met this girl c. Having a drink with a couple friends of mine at a bar and somehow or other (??!!) the next thing, the whole bunch of us - her group and mine - were chatting away famously as if we were long lost old friends (Not really sure how that happened).  

Where?  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 5:12 pm
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Any chance of getting an introduction from you to these ladies?  

SO ITS YOU!!!  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 5:26 pm
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Nesaany - so YOU! You try steal her - I very upset and have shouted her not dare to say you! Watch out!  

Pathetic  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 5:32 pm
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If this is your ideal woman, that's pretty sad. All I could say is that you deserve each other.  

nesanay  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 5:44 pm
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When did I say any of these 3 were my ideal woman?! I just relayed what I had experienced - I mean 3 different women at different times can not be just mere coincidence and I am wondering if others have been experiencing the same thing. What I wil say though is that these women WERE TRULY exceptional in their beauty, talent, skill, qulaity etc. Truly top class ..... anyway you define it.
I'd say that you're not only pathetic.... you're actually an IDIOT also!  

anon  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 6:18 pm
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How many courses do they serve, all 5?  

Pathetic  Posted : 16 May 2003 - 6:25 pm
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Just the way you describe these woman is enough to make one sick. You obviously think that to be happy, you need a slave. The weak always need to be treated this way to feel superior and compensate for their insecurities. Maybe someday you'll truly experience what it is to have a really amazing woman. Until then, keep living in the like a neanderthal and go climb a tree.  

nesanay  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 11:42 am
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pathetic - you really are PATHETIC!! I obviously need a slave...? The weak...? Let me tell you, these amazing women are definitely not weak - they've got more guile, talent and balls than most other women I've met - and certainly more balls than you ... you with the weak stomach...haha. Talking about neandethals.... so you "had" women??!! What, grunting + dragging them by their hair? IDIOT!!  

nesanay  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 12:06 pm
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Errr - no that's not the same for all chicks - and in fact most other chicks are so clueless as to their own self worth that they either don't know how to make the 'best' use of their considerable talents and looks or else they've got such low esteem that again they have no confidence to turn on the charms. Then there are those who thinks just too much of themselves.... and I don't think I need to describe what their attitudes are right?? The girls I describe DOES have the charm, beauty talent etc and they are instinctive in how they use these qualities to both beguile and trap their quarry. Thank God I had the presence of mind!!  

nesanay  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 12:08 pm
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Anon - how many courses do they serve...??? What a wanker this anon is! Go back to wanking little boy!  

nesanay  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 12:09 pm
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SO ITS YOU - learn English first man - and then tell me if you're one of the loosers who cain't afford one of the above women any more. Poor you - but the hell with you too!  

nesanay  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 12:13 pm
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libertin - the only intelligent contribution to this thread I've read up to now. Yes precisely - these are amazing gals and they really do know how to get what they want - which is basically some one to take care of them and in exchange, they are more than willing to cater to your every needs and even more...!!! No pretenses, no stupid tricks or tantrums, or cheap tactics to get what they want - they instead show mucho PANACHE in their chosen vocation in life. Actually MY HAT'S OFF TO THEM!!  

anon  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 1:24 pm
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what's your point/ Why so mad?  

young man  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 3:18 pm
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nasanay> I had many experiences similar to yours, but all those happened in Shanghai. I figure the tricks you mentioned are commonly adopted by those 'mainland professional gals' in hk who look for sugar boys, but the tricks of their counterparts in Shanghai are a bit superior.

Let me tell you my experiences.

They all first tried to find out whether I was qualified to become their sugar boys. Even after a few meetings, drinks or movies, they still made believe they were decent. I got to come up with plausible excuses to 'con' them into going with me to my place (i guess, they all knew what would happen, but it was just that they wanted the man to instigate the demand for the sake of their face). Being an average flirt (i.e. I don't make the flirting process awkward), I had no problem to undress them and get them into bed (or sofa for a couple of time).

I have had about 8 girls like that in the last 2 years, and still have one now. The tricks to hook them up are similar. One thing amazing is that they're all very juicy in their pussy (which you might not usually find from you gf in hk), some were good at bed and some were obviously amature. Some would suck in the first ***, and some would only do so in later days.

After having ***, it took about 2 to 4 more *** games before they'll talk about their difficult life - making me feel I was obliged to offer some financial assistance.

I figure that sort of games interesting, at least it's better than sleeping with prostitutes. It is because you'll get the kind of loving feelings which make you feel better when having ***, they are in disguise though. Who cares, I'm in disguise too!

I usually change to another gal in 2 to 3 months. Lots of new blood in the market. I don't blame them for demanding financial return and gifts, there is no free lunch in the world.

A friend of mine, who likes sleeping around like me, once reminded me that when someday I met a gal who refused to take any money I offered or didn't want anything materalistic from me, I had better avoid her; what she really wanted could be something I could never offer - love.

I'm still very happy with my 19 years old kidnergarten teacher; we have good *** whenever I travel to Shanghai.

One thing is very important, one must be sure one is not silly enought to believe that kind of gals could offer a family or long lasting loving relationship.  

Astarte  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 3:28 pm
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interesting......more loving sharings?  

nesanay  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:10 pm
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Hmmmm - now that you mention it. I've also had similar experiences with Mainland gals whilst there. I'm now wondering if the ladies I met in HKG went through a process of 'evolution' coming over here. That when they were at home, they probably latched on to their HKG guy as above, managed to come out here but then their Sugar Daddy etc went broke. Now their modus operandi have been refined and evolved to what I have experienced with these three. Hhmmmmmm??!!  

older gweilo  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:22 pm
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I've been "hit on" by three of these predatory females. In each case they used the same techniques as described above by nesanay. It was interesting to watch them work, In most cases an older gweilo like me is very vulnerable to such tactics.

Each of them were drop dead gorgeous and told me they preferred older western men. Being a predatory male, I strung them along, getting the royal treatment, until they realized that there would be no permanent relationship. Then they really turned on the pressure, telling me through many crocodile tears how they really loved me and couldn't live without me. When that didn't work, they just dropped out of sight  

comment  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:26 pm
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nen> but if you slept with the professionals and you don't pay ..
I would be worry if I were you
'cos I read the Appledaily , they always have those horrific murder case done by mainlanders ..


older gweilo  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:38 pm
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The litmus test is the requirement for money, in a genuine relationship the female won't broach the subject of monetary needs.  

young man  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:46 pm
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nesanay> I think you're quite right in a sense that those in hk must have gone through the evolution. As far as what I've observed, those young and pretty gals do have little difficulty to hook up guys as their sugar daddy. Even a lot of the hkers are running out of money as opposed to the situation of a few years ago, there are still many hkers, taiwanese, sig'reans, malayians in Shanghai, Beijing, and Guangzhou who can afford these gals. (I heard the population of these people is over 200,000 just in Shanghai alone - a market big enough for sugar daddy seekers)

However, as there are many choices in the market, these guys are very selective and will only pick those really good ones. Those gals who are less competitive, or a bit olders (say over 22 years old) will have to go to Shengzhen or hongkong to make a living. That is the fact of life.  

young man  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:51 pm
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older gweilo>you're right and wrong. Girls with true love might not ask for money assistance directly, but they do look for gifts or other materialistic things. this is nothing to do with whether they're greedy or not, it's regarded generally as a test as to whether you care for them and how much you love them. They usually think that if you love them you would do anything a all cost to make them happy - buying gifts is one of the reflections of your sincerity towards your girlfriend.  

young man  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:52 pm
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typo - should be "............do anything at all cost to........"  

young man  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 5:53 pm
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shit, typo again: ........at all costs...........  

older gweilo  Posted : 17 May 2003 - 6:56 pm
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young man>>You are correct that many HK gals do place a premium on gifts received as an indicator of how much you love them, but that's not the same as asking you to pay the rent, house maids, drivers, auto's etc...

Even given that, I would say that gifts make a poor love indicator and reveals a shallow person who places that much value on them.. For me, money is not a problem so I don't mind buying gifts, but it doesn't mean I love the girl. ......  

young man  Posted : 18 May 2003 - 12:06 am
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older gwelio> you're quite right. Neither do I think money/gifts could be an indicator of love. I was just saying that's the way gals usually think.

I think gals in hk have been spoiled, it takes a lot of effort to flatter a gal here.  

nesanay  Posted : 19 May 2003 - 4:49 pm
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Comment - Yes you are correct in that pros does do it for the money and I do pay them.... usually!! But certainly not in the above 3 cases. As far as I'm concerned, they were just giving out completely free samples. They knew exactly what they were doing and it's all part of their plan to snare somebody.... anybody.... and if they had to give out quite a few of their samples before they get a customer.... wellllllll... that's part and parcel of their method of doing business. On the other hand, old nesanay is NOT a complete bastard and in all 3 cases, I just gave them a couple thou and told them that I really think that their underwear is not pretty at all - and that please do me a favor and do go and buy yourself some nice knickers etc. See, I also know how to preserve myself and how to stay away from problems for after all I'm just out for a good time too!  

nesanay  Posted : 19 May 2003 - 4:52 pm
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Older Gweilo - Drop dead gorgeous YESSSSS - that's how I would describe all 3 of my lady friends (above). Also, when you made it clear that NO You're not going to be their sponsor (in my case its when I handed over a bit of cash to them), that they very gallantly sent you off packing? (No sale, tried best, forget it!!)  

nesanay  Posted : 19 May 2003 - 4:56 pm
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Older Gweilo and Young Man - no I don't really agree with what you guys said. One I do not think its correct to generalize about HKG girls - or any girls anywhere for that matter and second, I have met - and loved - many many personable/smart/capable girls in my life time - and to whom monetary affairs are totally out of the equation. I prefer to think the best of anybody - gilrs included - and have gone thru life doing so - this is perhaps why I have been fortunate in having met so many ladies who are not only in it for the money.  

nesanay  Posted : 19 May 2003 - 4:58 pm
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On the other hand, I have also had my fair share of pros and these had been nothing more, nothing less than a totally monetary matter. Nice clean and uncomplicated - something that I would say most Guys needs once a while right?  

nesanay  Posted : 19 May 2003 - 5:00 pm
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And I would like to echo OG's sentiments -
""Even given that, I would say that gifts make a poor love indicator and reveals a shallow person who places that much value on them.. For me, money is not a problem so I don't mind buying gifts, but it doesn't mean I love the girl. ......"" So verrrry true!!  

anon  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 10:24 am
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What point are you trying to make?  

nesanay  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 11:41 am
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Anon - 1. To double check that i am not the only one to have experienced this 'phenomena' - which old Gweilo have done. 2. How others handled situation. 3. How I should/should have handled situation. 4. How to take the BEST ADVANTAGE OF this phenomena - something along the line of - if they're willing to give, I'm willing to take etc. 5. and this last point is perhaps the most relevant - to educate the majority of Hong Kong gals who still blithely go about their lives as if nothing's changed and that their old habits still works in getting their own way/ There's real fierce competition out there GALS! Hang on to your men!!  

pretty HK gal  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 1:26 pm
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nesanay> you say there is fierce competition out there, what should I do to hang on to my men?
please be more specific
If there are cheap girls out there, don't think being even "slutter" is the way to go .  

HK Gal  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 1:26 pm
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Hang on to our men??!! would rather just HANG THEM - PERIOD!!  

nesanay  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 1:38 pm
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OK - here comes the part where I'm gonna try to benefit all the guys in HKG - and in the process benefit the ladies too! Basically Girls - you have to understand that men like *** - in any way shape or form. How a man gets *** is irrelevant to us men - but we do come back time and time again if the *** is good - and the accompanying baggage is least problematic. We go with the flow when it comes to ***! I certainly don't mean to generalize or stereotype but too many time I've come across HKG gals who would basically "barter'' *** for material things. Well to me actual cash is the easiest thing to understand and really gets turned off when instead there is 'mind games' to extract material things in forms other than cash. As you can see from what I described above - there are some real 'experts' on doing this and I would suggest that the regular Hkg girl is no match!  

nesanay  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 1:45 pm
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And since you HKG girls are not any match to these accomplished courtesans, I would like to suggest that instead you girls go back to what all we GUYS (whether from HKG or anywhere in the world) love - unadorned, Uncomplicated, PURE ***. From ***, the natural thing for a guy is to then fall in love - for guys its as sure as the night is dark and sunshine is bright. We are simple animals us guys - we love the ***, we love the woman! And us guys, when we fall in love, again we are totally uncomplicated - you keep on providing the ***, we keep on providing for the *** provider. EVERYBODY WINS!! sorry to be such a simpleton - but *** and lust and love and m/f relations ARE simple - its you gals who over complicates things!  

Ugly Girl  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 3:05 pm
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nesanay - you tell it truth right? What about ugly girl - what to do? Men also like *** with ugly girl or must be pretty?  

nesanay  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 3:24 pm
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errrrrr - not sure how to answer this!! Personally - and really, this is strictly personally - NO I would not want an ugly girl - even if just for ***. I do enjoy *** with pretty girls. On the other hand - I don't know what other males think about this - for surely, there MUST be guys that likes the ugly girls - for I do see that even ugly girls do go out and about with guys. Heck, I've even seen pros who were ugly - and yet they still seem to manage to attract customers!!  

stiffler  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 3:51 pm
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nesanay, not all chicks over-complicate things and not all of us guys are so simple. I had a girlfriend a few years back who was an air hostess, very pretty, great in bed and keen to have *** any time, any how, any where. Like the Goodies.

It didn't last long though, because there wasn't much else we had in common. I tired of her, tired of the *** even (sad to say) and moved on. As did she.  

nesanay  Posted : 20 May 2003 - 4:33 pm
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Stiffler - bingo! You got it right. Actually *** IS just the start - but it usually is a good start for us guys - sort of 'getting the foot in the door' for a girl. From then onwards, its up to the girl (ouch - hurts but truth) to keep up the relationship. We guys are just like puppets after the ***..... but a happy puppet if ALONGSIDE EVERYTHING ELSE, the good *** is maintained, and not too much demands/complications. Oversimplified perhaps but...... .  

been there  Posted : 21 May 2003 - 12:08 pm
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Nice thread nesanay!
I think you've come across something which is much more widespread but you're the first on IR to start the discussion. It's very simple - these girls have choices. If they're average looking, then they do average jobs and get average salaries (which, in Shanghai, maybe anything from 500 to no more than say 3-4k RMB a month). If they're on the game, they may be able to get this per night. However, if they'll smart and good looking, they could earn enough for an apartment/food/clothes and even other luxuries by simply hooking up one guy. Probably sounds bleeding obvious but clearly, if their biggest attribute is their looks and skills in bed, then (morality aside) it's hats off to them for being pragmatic enough to come to this conclusion. Call it Mistress, Courtesan, hooker, whatever .. you obviously have the "sugar daddy" look or impression that has allowed you to indulge in the "cream of the crop"! Well done.
Myself - twice in HK, twice in Beijing, one in Shanghai.  

nesanay  Posted : 22 May 2003 - 4:58 pm
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Thanks been there - i was beginning to think that I must have been smoking funny cigarettes!! You know, the 3 girls I was with are really stunning. In fact, I found out later that one of them had been the mistress of one of the scions of a prominent family - and this young man had been paying her US$20,000 per month!! Can you believe this? I at first didn't believe it when she told me but I found out that this was the truth after checking around with a few of our common acquaintances. so I guess this is why these girls do not mind being in this "profession" - certainly pays mucho mucho better than others - even being a high class hooker! I mean how much can you charge each time and how many times can you find a client being a high priced hooker. These Mistresses rakes the $$ in and only need to service 1 guy!  

Stiffy  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 2:13 am
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Excellent Thread!

Well said nesenay!  

nesanay  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 10:19 am
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Hi Stiffy - seen your contributions elsewhere on IR which I've always thought useful/amusing etc. You had any personal experiences along the same lines as ours?  

Need a Job  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 12:30 pm
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Hi nesanay - I just lost my job/doing nothing. Saw your thread and get excited. I am 24, pretty (many men say so), have good body and think maybe can also enter this good job!! Do you have any tips. I think - stupid girl - why before give away free - now maybe can just do this - enjoy AND make money!!  

been there  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 1:26 pm
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To nesenay> Did you think about actually paying anything at any time? Towards the end, I did pay something, but actually to kind of end the "relationship" so that I could class it as a "high class hooker" experience.

To Need a Job> I'd say it takes a special kind of girl who can do this. Simply pretty is not enough - you need that something extra that draws in a kind of obsession. Being stunningly beautiful is the obvious, but it can also be simply from being everything that the the guy's wife/girlfriend doesn't have - which may be gentleness, softness, or (sorry to be coarse) a real wild f**k. Are u ready to be a mistress on call?  

nesanay  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 3:46 pm
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To Need a Job - errr.... how do I answer this...??? Errr, how about you meeting up with me and you can demonstrate to me how you would go about trying to hook up a patron and I will make suggestions and...........!!!
Oh damn...I can't do this! What is this?!! Me getting a conscience?! OK OK, please first look at what 'been there' says and answer some of his questions. Are you a 'typical HKG Girl"?? And if so, can you compare to/be as good as your Northern Compatriot in being totally serville, gtentle, "luum"... and showing total gratitude to the men in your life? And that you're gonna make this guy feel as if he's "Simply the Best?" - never mind any body else - and that in actual fact this guy - the only thing that is good or good looking about him is the beauty of his wallet? First answer me those questions and perhaps we can go from there. OK?  

nesanay  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 3:52 pm
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To been there - yes I did in all 3 occassions made sure that I did in the end compensate them for their efforts - not in a big way for sure - but it was pure cash payments. And i made sure that I made it easier for them to accept the cash but on the same token also used it as a signal for them to know that its where they should probably end their pursuit of this prospect (me!!).  

nesanay  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 3:55 pm
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To need a job - you should perhaps contact me directly by writing to my handle - as I would suggest that what you are contemplating is something that you would NOT want to have too many people even think that you're involved in. Not that I think that this 'profession' is such a lousy one - everybody have their own choices and judgement as to what they want to do with their life - but you know that the majority of people do not think the same way and are so quick to pass judgement and call names etc.  

superpunter  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 4:27 pm
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Need a Job>
Why don't you start off by getting some quick pocket money and training first by practicing on the *** with me. I'm afraid it is not easy to find a man who is willing to pay US$20000 a month and you may want to be more realistic and do a part time job for the moment to make ends meet. Contact me at : superpunter@excite.com  

nesanay  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 5:53 pm
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Superpunter>> putting on the moves eh??!! Shame on you but......good luck anyway. If she's willing and comes into it with open eyes then....... but please make sure she has her eyes open OK?? that much you can do right?  

superpunter  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 6:55 pm
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nesanay>
Your thread is excellent and you're spot on about these mainland girls (I'm being sincere here). I've also had the privilege to experience a Beijing University girl who was after the green card, good life etc...and offered all the "free samples" that you talked about. I appreciate them as much as you and have learned the game. However, the info you give (I believe you) may delude many girls into thinking that there is easy money to be made out there and put diamonds into their daydreams. Men who are rich or dumb enough to pay US$20000 a month are indeed an extreme rarity and these men do not grow on trees and they certainly don't include you or me. You are into the "free samples" that the mainland girls give and so am I. However, I also vary my diet with some no BS paid *** too and would not mind giving help to someone who has already expressed an interest for exchanging *** for money in some form. I'd rather state the basic facts rather than give false **** and I am not going to take "free samples" and rip off someone who clearly stated she wants a new job and money? I don't think I'm deluding "need a job". I think your suggestion for her to train as a mainland courtesan is not very practical. After the training (where she gets no pay when she is unemployed) and I'm not sure if you are going to take some "free samples", where are you gonna find her the US$20000 a month job? Wouldn't she be back to square 1 and even poorer? No hard feelings okay. I think you are a very knowledgeable guy and thank you for your info. I'd sure like to enjoy the 3 stunners like you are doing now you lucky bastard!. Anyhow, I **** we could agree to disagree on a very minor point.  

pretty HKgal  Posted : 23 May 2003 - 8:05 pm
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nes and superhunter> I don't get it .. what you are saying after all is that if HK gals need to be competitive, then they have to be born pretty , be slutty in bed and let any men to screw them ?
My dogs must love me more


julian  Posted : 24 May 2003 - 2:45 am
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i like this thread, what nesanay said is very real, because a lady friend of mine ( mainland ) told me most of her friends at lest have 2 to 4 suger boyfriends providing them every month for their expenses from different part of Asia, which they prefer. like mentioned by nesanay, they are beauties with brains , look soft and sweet but they will tell their man even though we've been with many married man yet pretending that they never in that situation. some of these beauties are kindergarden teachers, skin doc. united airlines flight attenant. like above said, that they used to good life, need a driver, car,condo and monthly allowances even platinum card.  

nesanay  Posted : 24 May 2003 - 12:20 pm
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Superpunter>
spot on - and I do also appreciate your feedback and take on these beautiful and talented girls. And BTW - 'need a job' has NOT pursued this matter at my red handle - so perhaps she came to her senses... or realize that she just ain't got what it takes to be on par with her Northern sisters! No certainly sugar daddies who can provide US20K/month do not grow on trees - and I mentioned this fact to highlight how much these girls CAN actually make - but of course at the very top of their chosen profession. And no, ctually I don't disagree with you at all - its just that I do detect a lot of naivety on the part of 'need a job' and perhaps am trying to - perversely -' do a bit of 'cik fook!!'  

nesanay  Posted : 24 May 2003 - 12:36 pm
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Pretty HK Gal>
No, i think you got it all wrong! What I am saying is that HK gals GENERALLY (and excuse me for generalizing) just do not have enough beauty, body AND total submissiveness that is required for such an 'undertaking' and that as such, they should NOT be trying to compete on the same playing field. I would suggest that HKG gals should compete for the same aim (getting their man, attaining whatever life goals they themselves have) by using the particularly unique characteristics AND strength of the general HKG girl. Again I am generalizing but only outlining why I also do looooove HKG girls - but I suggest the typical HKG girl shopuld instead use these strong atributes; You -relatively speaking - do have Financial independence, quite a bit of 'Attitude' (Certainly not mousy or clinging!!), confidence, dress sense, good hygiene (Ouch!! but yes!! Definitely, compared to your Northern counterpart), know how to accentuate your looks, can be entrusted to organize life (but here - pls don't get too bossy) when required, AND you certainly will not be a source of 'embarrasment/uneasiness' when mixing with our friends/business partners etc (Too many chuckling and wink wink when I'm with Northerners and with my friends!).
OK 'nuff said - I am suggesting compete on your own terms - coz you ain't got what it takes to compete on their level!  

nesanay  Posted : 24 May 2003 - 12:48 pm
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Julian>
sorry to say this - but i think that you've only 'scratched the surface' as to what these mainland women are all about, and have outlined quite well known cliches about them. There is a much deeper side to the way they are - and its certainly NOT that they have less brains/intelligence/ morality etc than any other beings on this planet Earth. Rather, its the 'cards that they''ve been dealth with' being born in China. When I am with/think about these PRC gals, I have true mixed feelings - Pity, sadness, sometimes disgust (How cheap they are, how totally devoid of morals they are, how the world must look at us Chinese - allowing our women to be this way etc etc) - but at the same time, I also many times admire them for their ability to take the bull by the horn given the circumstances - and of course I do thoroughly enjoy their 'ministrations' to me!!
I do thank my lucky stars - and God - for having given me such better 'cards' in life.  

Abroad  Posted : 24 May 2003 - 4:37 pm
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nesanay,

Great thread. Your experience was indeed very interesting. I am in the US now. But I plan to return to HK in a year or so. I don't want any serious long term relationship. Some casual date and *** will be ideal. Would be very interested to meet these special breed of women that you met. Do you think we can randomly run into them? Or are there certain places (or social circles) where they tend to hang out more?  

nesanay  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 10:52 am
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Well, like I said, these girls are 'Loose and on the prowl!' And as above, I did meet these women quite by random. On the other hand, now that you mention it - there does seem to be a 'propensity' for these ladies to see and be seen amongst people who does have - or appear to have - serious money. I'm not saying that you need to 'reek' of money, but they do seem to gravitate to those who at least smell of the green stuff.
One word of warning though - presuming that you're quite young (Jeez, I'd hate for you to be a progeny of a well known HKG family - those who has more dollars than sense!))and since you're right now living in the U.S. (and thus probably have a better socio/economic standing than most people in HKG) - You will want to be very very careful with these very accomplished ladies! You'll be like a moth playing very very close to the fire.  

How they know?  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 3:08 pm
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How they know if I really am rich? Can I pretend? Many Hong Kong people put on good show.  

libertin  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 3:13 pm
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How they know?> Phonies never stand the test of time.  

How they know?  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 3:43 pm
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test of time? no, just enough time to do it. Don't care after. Nesany - you advise me OK?  

debra  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 8:56 pm
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you can find these girls everywhere, not just China. I was one of them in Europe.
I had a "sugar daddy" who paid for my university fees, my apartment and plane tickets (we travelled a lot together). He was a very wealthy man in his early 40s, married, and last but not least, handsome, witty and good in bed. . I still cannot believe my luck. When we first met was struggling to pay my university fees, and he helped me. Then he started taking me to trips abroad, and eventually decided that my flat was too scruffy, since I couldn't afford a better one, he rented one for me. When my car broke down, he bought me a new one. I never had to ask for money or presents, he just gave me what he thought I needed to live a comfortable life.  

well  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 9:04 pm
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Debra, where did you find him?  

debra  Posted : 26 May 2003 - 9:18 pm
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I must have been lucky, because he approached me in a cafeteria, which I later found out was very close to his office. I was having a chat with a friend, and he dropped something which ended up under our table. I picked it up, ran out of the cafeteria to hand it back to him. To thank me, he said he would like to buy me a drink after work. I said, why not, and we met later that day.

We had *** the same night, because after getting me a bit drunk he drove me home and came upstairs for a coffee. Then we started seeing each other once a week, and when he had to travel for business, I would go with him. It was fun, staying in 5 * hotels, eating in nice restaurants, going shopping together... It lasted till the moment I fell in love with a guy my age, 4 years later.  



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